How "Green" is Your Music

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How "Green" is Your Music

Postby agraham999 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:02 pm

From the TH blog:

Most people know that computers and appliances are often rated Energy Star compliant, but how many of us consider our own home audio systems? You might be surprised to know that according to Energy Star "Americans spend more money to power home audio products when turned off than when actually in use."

Sony, Panasonic, and Pioneer (to name a few), all have models that have earned the Energy Star seal of approval. But what about obsolescence? Hazardous materials? Most amplifiers and CD players have pretty long shelf life. As for the next generation of music technology, gear like the Sonos whole house wireless music system may not have the Energy Star seal, but it does have built in power management, has updatable firmware to combat obsolescence, and is ROHS compliant (the restriction of the use of certain hazardous substances in electrical and electronic equipment).

In the TH forum we're asking you to tell us about your home audio system and if you've made an effort to "green" it up. Pop in for a peek at my system and efforts to green my tunes.


I wanted a solution that allowed me to do surround sound in my living room, take advantage of my huge digital music collection, access online content like Rhapsody and Pandora, and stream music around the entire house without any wiring. I also wanted it to be as green as possible.

So here's a peek at my own audio system:

Living Room
Sony 7.1 Channel 180 Watt amp (Front/Rear/Center Channel), Sony subwoofer, Buffalo NAS Drive, and the Sonos ZP80 Music system (Non Amped), with Sonos controller. The patio speakers are also powered by this amp.

Office
Sonos ZP100 (Amped) unit with 2 Sonos speakers, and a wireless headset system.

Master Bedroom
Sonos ZP80 (Non Amped), Sonos controller, Tivoli Model One Radio

In my living room the Sony Amp and Subwoofer are both Energy Star compliant, and go into standby mode when not in use. The Buffalo NAS (Network Accessible Storage) drive stores all my digital music files and it spins down when not in use. The Sonos ZP80 is a multi-room music streaming device, and this particular model doesn't have an amp. It sends the music to the Sony amp via an optical cable. This unit also functions as an "always on" wireless router to my other Sonos units, but it has a pretty small energy footprint and all Sonos gear is ROHS compliant.

When working in the office I have a choice between using the speakers or the wireless headphones. If my wife is working in the office, you can guess I'm on the headphones. Therefore when the amped Sonos ZP100 is not in use, the power amplifier will shut down and go into a low power mode. My wireless headphones work the same way.

As for the bedroom, once again we have a non amped ZP80 connected to a low power Tivoli Model One radio for maximum sound in a small space/energy footprint. This combination also acts as our alarm clock, so the Tivoli is on 24/7. I hear that Tivoli is or is about to be ROHS compliant.

Added up, when not in use, my system uses much less than 100w bulb.

I've had my http://sonos.com system now going on 3 years and it is simply the best gear I've ever had. 2-3 times a year they update the firmware and I get new features...like getting a new device each time. The killer apps beyond my own library are Rhapsody streaming, Pandora, and internet radio. Literally has made me fall in love with music again.

Here are some photos if you want to see it all

http://web.mac.com/agraham999/My_Audio/Audio.html

Let's also not forget that buying digital music saves on material costs.

What about you?
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Postby mikebeavis on Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:32 pm

You've done a lot. All I did was put my 5-disk CD/radio on a surge strip to eliminate vampire power when I'm not using it (probably 300 days out of the year).

And I've been thinking about running an extension cord to it from the inverter when I want to play CDs, that way I can listen to CDs using solar power. But the inverter makes to much RF interference to use it with the radio.
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Postby agraham999 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:41 pm

I do get bleed from the cable box which is made by motorola...from comcast. I fail to see why this thing has to be the size of a circa 1980's VCR. Anyway...luckily I have optical inputs which eliminate the RF...my system is pretty nice...but I know it pales to some of the true audiophiles out there.
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Postby ajl9290 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:07 am

thats a very nice system you have. sounds like its effective and not a mess to handle, but it also should put out a fantastic sound.

I don't have much in the way of a home theater system, since I use a ATI TV tuner to put the cable on my PC, which I'm already using. And then I li9sten through my $500 45dB active/passive noise cancelling headphones. Minimal power draw, minimal effort, incredible sound. However, if I need to, I can wire up a very nice system with 2-3 subwoofers and 7-10 satellite speakers that I can really crank with minimal power through the use of some computer software.

As for the topic itself, I could go on for hours; music and green stuff make up a huge portion of my life (I've got a whole theory about how the two kind of combine...)
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Postby agraham999 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:26 am

I have always been passionate about music but for awhile I lost interest in it. I converted all my CDs to files but I hated moving an iPod around or wearing heaphones all the time...or even having to crank the stereo...and I certainly didn't want to wire the whole house.

When I got my sonos I was finally able to have music in every room with no effort. And while I still buy tracks from itunes and other places, I've really been a fan of both Rhapsody and Pandora...Rhapsody with Sonos is a dream come true.

Yeah...costs a bit...but after three years of flawless performance and daily use...it easily paid for itself.
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Postby jaffacake on Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:47 pm

Alan,

Great topic.

I'm posting some power comsumption results for the Sonos system over at my blog, starting with the ZP100.

http://www.jaffacake.net/dx/sonoszp100
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Postby agraham999 on Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:03 am

Nice blog post Ben...good to see that all my Sonos units are drawing about 20w in "standby." BTW...as an update to my system...I just installed a speaker into my shower. Branched off of the bedroom sonos...and am running that speaker with a tiny 20w amp which can be actually shut off when not in use.

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Re: How "Green" is Your Music

Postby Phishville on Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:10 am

I have 6 seperate zones of music. Each zone has a sonos zp90. I use rotel dist. Amps that have singal sensing s they only turn on when music is started. All types of speakers paradigm studio 40, def tech, hsu sub, paradigm atoms. I wish the home receiver makers would include signal sensing triggers to the 2nd/3rd zone. Been waitng for someone to offer one to replace my current outlaw amp.
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Re: How "Green" is Your Music

Postby NiHaoMike on Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:02 pm

My system consists of used speakers and an extremely efficient hybrid digital amplifier made mostly from recycled materials.
http://ecorenovator.org/forum/appliance ... audio.html
Proud to engineer for high efficiency.
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