Its the end of the world as we know it...

[Collin McConville]

So, I hope the title will bring in people to read this, and discuss... because discussion is the key to success!

Now that I have you all in the palm of my hand ( ) Let us begin.

Many people believe that, at its current rate of growth, the human population will quickly outgrow the resources available on this planet. So, My question is, in light of current studies, and events, is the planet correcting this for us?

I know, a lot of you are probobly smacking yourselves on the head, and filing this under the "stupid" folder or what not, but I am just trying to get a discussion started on what I see as a very interesting subject.

Now then, evidence. I will start with the less serious and move to the more serious.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6925882.stm
Hot weather increases Suicide rates. So, global warming means more hot weather, which means more suicides, which means less people.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... index.html
This as well as another earthquake (in Japan a few weeks ago) strike. Both are fairly strong, and while there aren't many deaths, it is still pretty serious. (Considering the earthquake in Japan caused damage to a nuclear power plant)

Flooding and drought. No link necassary, its all over.

Massive forest fires... again no link required...



**So... I know that Humans don't necassarily have a direct link on all of these things.. its still an interesting correlation. So, what does everyone think? Will this planet stop our population's growth? Or will we procreate until we have to go find a new planet.

[JiltedCitizen]

Pick any moment in time and you can pick events that would point to the same "conclusion" So no, sh*t always happens, there is nothing special going on.

[Collin McConville]

Pick any moment in time and you can pick events that would point to the same "conclusion" So no, sh*t always happens, there is nothing special going on.

Jilted, that doesn't get to my actual question. Is the world going to do something to correct our rapidly growing population? Famine.. Plague etc etc. Or are we going to continue to mulitply?

[OG]

So no, sh*t always happens, there is nothing special going on.

Global warming and all kinds of other forms of environmental destruction caused by human activity is "nothing special going on"?

[JiltedCitizen]

It answers it perfectly. The world will always seem to kill off it's inhabitants. And humans and it's in habitants will always multiply. Like I said take any point in human history and you could draw a similar conclusion. Disasters are always happening.

[Collin McConville]

It answers it perfectly. The world will always seem to kill off it's inhabitants. And humans and it's in habitants will always multiply. Like I said take any point in human history and you could draw a similar conclusion. Disasters are always happening.

Indeed disasters are always happening, but it seems, to me at least, that they are occuring at a far faster and more devistating rate.

Another thing that I didn't mention above is the increase in hurricane activity this year. I don't have a link off hand, but can easily find one if necassary.

These are extraordinary things that lead me to believe that the world is trying to correct itself.

Now, if this is/isn't so, that does not detract from the fact that we must do something to stop this trend of environment destroying.

[JiltedCitizen]

Now, if this is/isn't so, that does not detract from the fact that we must do something to stop this trend of environment destroying.

Sure, that wasn't your question though. Pretty much your question was, 'Is the planet alive and killing us off?' I think that's ridiculous.

[Collin McConville]

Now, if this is/isn't so, that does not detract from the fact that we must do something to stop this trend of environment destroying.

Sure, that wasn't your question though. Pretty much your question was, 'Is the planet alive and killing us off?' I think that's ridiculous.

The statement I made, was a sub text saying that I don't think we should stop greening efforts. It was so that people didn't get the wrong impression, and think that I was saying the world will fix all, we don't need to do anything.

And no, my question was not "is the planet alive and killing us off" thanks though.

[OG]

Pretty much your question was, 'Is the planet alive and killing us off?' I think that's ridiculous.

You don't think the planet is alive? You don't think that there are negative feedback cycles from hurting the planet that kill people?

[Collin McConville]

I was hoping for more of a discussion then a simple "you're crazy, cycles happen" over simplification that Jilted has been kind enough to give us... Oh well, can't fault someone for trying.

[JiltedCitizen]

Now, if this is/isn't so, that does not detract from the fact that we must do something to stop this trend of environment destroying.

Sure, that wasn't your question though. Pretty much your question was, 'Is the planet alive and killing us off?' I think that's ridiculous.

The statement I made, was a sub text saying that I don't think we should stop greening efforts. It was so that people didn't get the wrong impression, and think that I was saying the world will fix all, we don't need to do anything.

And no, my question was not "is the planet alive and killing us off" thanks though.

This kinda sounds like that.

So, My question is, in light of current studies, and events, is the planet correcting this for us?

Maybe you can rewrite that so i understand?

[Collin McConville]

I am not going to waste anymore time on you Jilted.

[JiltedCitizen]

I am not going to waste anymore time on you Jilted.

What the hell is with the hostility?

[OG]

I am not going to waste anymore time on you Jilted.

What the hell is with the hostility?

... says someone who just called a moderator a **zi on another thread and sent me yet another unwanted PM telling me to "mind my own business."

One can also easily review your other comments made today that consist of comments like "that's crap!" and "what the hell!"

Perhaps if you sought first to actually understand the nature of the question that Colin poses and answered it in a thoughtful manner, then maybe he would have responded in a manner which led to some form of fruitful exploration of this topic. But clearly such things aren't what your objective here is.

[ryanwhiteorchid]

How about, I give everyone free energy and water by 2050. Green, clean energy and water and you place a cap on birth rates. 1 per family.

Would this then solve these problems.

Well, I hope so, as except for the population cap, I am doing the rest.

http://whiteorchid.wordpress.com/global-energy-bank/

Help or hinder... if it's something you want change, maybe you can help on this project?

Ryan