At which RF frequency does salt water burn?

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At which RF frequency does salt water burn?

Postby roberrific on Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:01 pm

When John Kanzius tried to desalinate seawater with a device he had created to treat cancer, he found he could keep the water burning like a candle as long as it was exposed to the proper frequencies. (which are??)

Not surprisingly, most of the scientific community initially dismissed Kanzius' claim as a hoax. However, when Rustum Roy (a chemistry professor at Penn State University) took John up on the challenge, and attempted to recreate the experiment, he was amazed to see that it actually worked.

But what is that radio frequency???
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Postby MyDogRex on Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:00 pm

I believe the answer you are looking for is "42".

I would be happy to provide funding. The check is in the mail! First though let me finish this transaction helping out this nice man in Nigeria. Apparently he just needs me to wire him some money and then he will pay me back plus give me a reward. What could possibly go wrong?
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puede parecerse loco, pero no tiene que ser 419-Scam :p

Postby lee on Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:55 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6vSxR6UKFM

(i'm not saying the big question isn't there. as in how much energy does the external RF machine use to do the electrolysis, but still ...419?)
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I WANT MY WATERCAR ! ! ! ! !

Postby lee on Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:29 am

...but like they say, there's more than one way to peel a carrot--

the patents for Stan Meyers awesome work have expired and his stuff is now open source(pdf) and there are groups who are doing it all over! ...just one caviat, perhaps you don't want to do what Ravi did, posting it all on youtoob, cause it would appear that some people don't want this narrative to end happily ever after (well maybe that's not 100% the story, or just that the goons cant threaten everyone anymore, cause there's more meyers replications popping up every day, and some of these guys know how to use youtube! So watch out!
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Postby omnispace on Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:19 am

Around 13 MHz. I don't know this for sure, but apparently it was mentioned by Kanzius in some video.

Of course, you're going to want to do a frequency sweep to find the sweet spot. It's probably the resonant frequency of either salt or water.
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Postby lee on Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:19 pm

probably the salt-- would make it like his cancer tech.
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or maybe it's the magneseum

Postby lee on Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:22 pm

now to show that the hundreth monkey does seem to happen, here we go Nippon Stylee
Duncan Graham-Rowe wrote:The idea, says Takashi Yabe, a professor of mechanical engineering and science at the Tokyo Institute, is to make a powerful laser capable of combusting the magnesium content of seawater. In the process, large amounts of heat and hydrogen are given off
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Postby greenplease on Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:28 pm

I would fund the research simply because it may prove to be a novel form of electrolysis. The fact that you can electrolyze sea water without using platinum electrodes is very exciting. I'm not a fan of the oft proposed hydrogen economy, but there could be a use for such tech example:

Use offshore wind power to drive the electrolysis of seawater via radio waves. The hydrogen can be pumped onshore where it can be utilized as fuel for PEM fuel cells. The upside is that with sufficiently high flow rates, you do not have to liquefy the hydrogen and worry about metal embrittling and additional energy losses. An additional benefit would be clean drinking water.

IMO, this could be a viable solution for desert countries such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, et al where the drinking water is worth more than the energy produced.
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